You are not logged in.
#1 2010-07-23 03:19:03
- The Bandito
- Bench Warmer
- Registered: 2007-11-10
- Posts: 69
- Reputation : 5
Give Witten for Hines Ward?
On sheer value, I think Witten is more valuable. My likely keepers for this season are:
Aaron Rodgers, Chris Johnson, MJD, Jamaal Charles, Vincent Jackson, Greg Jennings, Jermichael Finley and either Witten OR Owen Daniels. But if I flex Charles, I can only use one TE.
Given that I'm likely without VJax for, well, who knows how long -- should I take this? Or try for better? His other keepable WRs are Boldin, Maclin and Carolina Steve Smith.
12 teams, 1 pt for 40 yds passing, 20 yds rush/rec, 1 PPR, 4 pts/TD pass
start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 flex, 1 D/ST
Likely keepers: Rodgers, CJ, MJD, Charles, VJax, Jennings, Witten, Daniels
Offline
#2 2010-07-23 08:01:12
- MattyP
- Roddy White #132
- From: America's Dairyland
- Registered: 2007-10-09
- Posts: 3330
- Reputation : 471
Re: Give Witten for Hines Ward?
With Owen Daniels not finishing last season, I don't know that I would go all in with him to start the year off at TE - nor for that matter would I neccessarily slot him ahead of Witten, despite his good year pre-injury and Witten's drop off the face of the earth during a similar time period.
If I'm understanding this right, you have 9 keepers? You've listed 8, but then imply that you'd keep Ward as well. Out of the 4 receivers you listed on the other guy's team, I'd rather have any of the other three before Ward - I doubt he'd move Boldin, Maclin has good upside, and I like Steve Smith a lot, even with the pre-preseason 'hurt playing grab-ass' injury. Ward is consistent, and the best option in Pitt, but I personally think you're losing value in a Witten for Ward deal, and I'd rather go for Smith, who I think you can get, and is the more explosive player.
A man's got to know his limitations.
Online
#3 2010-07-23 11:10:22
- The Bandito
- Bench Warmer
- Registered: 2007-11-10
- Posts: 69
- Reputation : 5
Re: Give Witten for Hines Ward?
My bad -- should have been clearer. The keepers are if there is no trade. We can keep 6, plus two guys with 2 yrs experience or less (CJ and Charles). If I made the deal, I'd go with AR, CJ, MJD, JC, VJ, GJ, JF and Ward.
12 teams, 1 pt for 40 yds passing, 20 yds rush/rec, 1 PPR, 4 pts/TD pass
start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 flex, 1 D/ST
Likely keepers: Rodgers, CJ, MJD, Charles, VJax, Jennings, Witten, Daniels
Offline
#4 2010-07-23 17:08:33
- The Bandito
- Bench Warmer
- Registered: 2007-11-10
- Posts: 69
- Reputation : 5
Re: Give Witten for Hines Ward?
My hope in having three TEs the year the league is finally switching to mandatory TE was to have some trade depth. And I love Finley's upside in that offense, so I figured Witten would be my best bet in a trade as for as potential return.
WRs on other teams that could use TE help:
Team 1 - White, Sims-Walker, Crabtree, Cotchery, Berrian (no TE on roster)
Team 2 - Colston, Harvin, Welker, OchoCinco, Meachem, Britt, Royal (no TE)
Team 3 - the team I mentioned above also has Hakeem Nicks and no TE
Team 4 - Fitzgerald, Moss, NYG Smith (but he has Olsen at TE and may be happy with that)
Team 5 - DJax, Rice, Holmes, Wallace, Garcon, Knox, Avery (has Carlson at TE)
Worth mentioning is that I don't have a first round pick, so I will likely miss out on the hot rookie receivers (especially valuable since we get to keep 2 guys with less than 2 years of experience).
Assuming I WANT to move Witten, where do you see the best deal for me to shoot for? Should I offer him for a draft pick? Is he worth a first rounder since that roughly equates to the 7th round after keepers?
12 teams, 1 pt for 40 yds passing, 20 yds rush/rec, 1 PPR, 4 pts/TD pass
start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 flex, 1 D/ST
Likely keepers: Rodgers, CJ, MJD, Charles, VJax, Jennings, Witten, Daniels
Offline
#5 2010-07-23 17:51:42
- Actium
- All Pro
- From: San Diego
- Registered: 2007-09-26
- Posts: 1237
- Reputation : 42
Re: Give Witten for Hines Ward?
I would want more for Witten. I agree that you are set at the position, but Witten should be the best of the three.
I don't know that I would trade a Top 5 TE for a Top 25 WR.
"How much cheese is too much cheese? "
Offline
#6 2010-07-23 20:35:11
- The Bandito
- Bench Warmer
- Registered: 2007-11-10
- Posts: 69
- Reputation : 5
Re: Give Witten for Hines Ward?
Team 2 has offered Meachem. I think he's planning on keeping all his WRs other than Britt.
12 teams, 1 pt for 40 yds passing, 20 yds rush/rec, 1 PPR, 4 pts/TD pass
start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 flex, 1 D/ST
Likely keepers: Rodgers, CJ, MJD, Charles, VJax, Jennings, Witten, Daniels
Offline
#7 2010-07-24 00:56:00
- The Bandito
- Bench Warmer
- Registered: 2007-11-10
- Posts: 69
- Reputation : 5
Re: Give Witten for Hines Ward?
Would Nicks be a better target than Ward given our ability to keep 2 guys with 2 years experience or less? That makes him an "extra" keeper for two more years, which would be nice as long as the production is reasonable.
12 teams, 1 pt for 40 yds passing, 20 yds rush/rec, 1 PPR, 4 pts/TD pass
start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 flex, 1 D/ST
Likely keepers: Rodgers, CJ, MJD, Charles, VJax, Jennings, Witten, Daniels
Offline
#8 2010-07-24 01:05:18
- Actium
- All Pro
- From: San Diego
- Registered: 2007-09-26
- Posts: 1237
- Reputation : 42
Re: Give Witten for Hines Ward?
I like Nicks over Ward, especially since Big Ben will miss 4-6 games, but I still don't like giving up Witten.
"How much cheese is too much cheese? "
Offline
#9 2010-07-24 13:25:46
- The Bandito
- Bench Warmer
- Registered: 2007-11-10
- Posts: 69
- Reputation : 5
Re: Give Witten for Hines Ward?
Nicks for Witten was rejected, but the counter of ANY TE (including Daniels) for Ward was made. Should I take that and stop? Keep looking? Do that one and continue shopping the other two for whatever they will bring?
12 teams, 1 pt for 40 yds passing, 20 yds rush/rec, 1 PPR, 4 pts/TD pass
start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 flex, 1 D/ST
Likely keepers: Rodgers, CJ, MJD, Charles, VJax, Jennings, Witten, Daniels
Offline
#10 2010-07-24 18:31:21
- MattyP
- Roddy White #132
- From: America's Dairyland
- Registered: 2007-10-09
- Posts: 3330
- Reputation : 471
Re: Give Witten for Hines Ward?
Keep looking. I like each of those TEs more than Hines Ward, especially with an opening third of the season with Leftwich heaving balls in his general direction.
A man's got to know his limitations.
Online